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Post by Lane of Magic on Oct 16, 2008 23:44:25 GMT
Hmm, WWMD... what would Mab do? If you are ever in a dilemma and not sure what to do, just ask yourself WWMD... and then don't do it, because it would probably be a bad idea for a mortal to try.  Well… whatever Mab would do is probably more sensible than my first choice to go about things. Actually, yeah, I did have to ask myself that question on a few occasions. Good times! ;D Anyways, yes… Er, well, Frik might have lost his purpose at one point, but at least he remained a pretty funny character throughout the movie. *tries to be helpful* *awkward smile* |
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Post by himiko on Oct 16, 2008 23:50:07 GMT
Yes, he did, and in that sense, he had a point to the film as the "comic" element.
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Post by Accolon on Oct 17, 2008 16:19:09 GMT
Hmm considering the discussion of Morgan in the context of the "Fact" that Merlin is primarly a sadomasochistic soft porn (And thus Frik is needed as a sub), I guess one could argue that Morgan should of been Mab's henchman/sub. There's certainly a bit of pressure to do that based on the many calls for Mab/Morgan slash.
But then there is the young merlin thing; Morgan couldn't both be Arthur's sister and Mab's lackey (Well, unless there was lots of Magic! involved). So other than the Magic! solution, maybe could of made Nimue Mab's first sub, but have her go "bad" (i.e. Christian and/or pro-Merlin). Or, heres a thought, what if once upon a time Auntie A had been Mab's sub....
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Post by Lane of Magic on Oct 17, 2008 23:44:48 GMT
Er. I guess that's a novel interpretation of the movie...
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Post by Zoicite on Oct 18, 2008 7:13:26 GMT
Hmm considering the discussion of Morgan in the context of the "Fact" that Merlin is primarly a sadomasochistic soft porn (And thus Frik is needed as a sub), I guess one could argue that Morgan should of been Mab's henchman/sub. There's certainly a bit of pressure to do that based on the many calls for Mab/Morgan slash. But then there is the young merlin thing; Morgan couldn't both be Arthur's sister and Mab's lackey (Well, unless there was lots of Magic! involved). So other than the Magic! solution, maybe could of made Nimue Mab's first sub, but have her go "bad" (i.e. Christian and/or pro-Merlin). Or, heres a thought, what if once upon a time Auntie A had been Mab's sub.... If we all DIDN'T Do what Mab does, we'd be the most popular, nicest, agreeable people on the planet. Where is this labeled 'fact' at? Though it makes sense now.. Many calls...you mean, mine and the people here that I pressured and poked into it. XP Jump on the Helena/Miranda bandwagon! I think Ambrosia was, at some point. Not movie wise, though that certainly would have been interesting, but the novel opens with Ambrosia becoming disillusioned of Paganism. |
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Post by Accolon on Oct 18, 2008 15:20:26 GMT
It's my controversial assertion to make people post. Fact: Merlin is just S&M soft porn; it has no other artistic or intrinsic value. And doesn't need any |
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Post by himiko on Oct 18, 2008 23:33:17 GMT
YAY for controversial assertions to make people post, that is what I say! Posting is good.
Hmmm, considering the film from that angle would certainly put a different spin on things...
About Ambrosia's relationship with Mab, whether it be as a "sub", or whatever- according to the book, Ambrosia hadn't seen Mab in the flesh since she was a child, which always seemed odd to me, as the scenes between them, few though they were, seemed to indicate that they'd met a fair few times in the past- Ambrosia is far more casual towards Mab's sudden appearance than one would expect if it had been the first time since she was a child, and Mab allows Ambrosia to get away with being rather frank and probably disrespectful towards her, which to me speaks of long association. Not to mention the fact that she'd had her watched by Frik at some stage- presumably before she even created Merlin, since by book canon, she was unconscious between Merlin's conception and his birth.
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Post by Accolon on Oct 19, 2008 1:21:36 GMT
Can also reinterpret the scene where Ambrosia provokes Mab into killing her. Bet she wanted *nudge nudge wink wink* Mab to strike her for reasons other than driving a wedge between Mab and Merlin.
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Post by Zoicite on Oct 19, 2008 23:39:04 GMT
That 'fact' just made us all wonder. XP
It's kind of seeable, though... considering a headache in a suitcase IS S&M for some people, and dominance seems to be the entire theme throughout. It's one big magic filled sex game that takes over everyone's lives, the characters and the fans.
A lot of 'anything you can do, I can do better'ism there.
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Post by hilloneko on Oct 21, 2008 5:16:17 GMT
I always thought the reasoning that Ambrosia acted that way towards Mab the few times she saw her was this. Ambrosia's village was attacked by Vortigan's men which lead Ambrosia to cry out to Mab to help her but sadly Mab didn't come. That event I think hardened Ambrosia's character as well as created a hidden hatred towards Mab. That Hatred did surfaced a bit in the movie and in the books but was never really seen well enough to become clear. So when Mab did come to claim Merlin the first time Ambrosia didn't want to give into Mab's power and wanted to show Mab that she had no power over Ambrosia anymore. That is my interpretation at least.
why does that last line remind me of labyrinth?
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Post by Zoicite on Oct 22, 2008 4:14:50 GMT
You have no power over me! But, you do. It reminded me of labyrinth too.  |
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Post by maellowyn on Mar 23, 2010 16:36:25 GMT
Every great "Evil" needs his funny side-kick... may it be for the dirty work or just to reduce his aggresions.
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Post by Mabforever on Mar 23, 2010 16:56:42 GMT
Yesh and to a certain point Frik was an amazing evil side kick.
Lucky so and so, would kill for the job.
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