MaBellatrix

[Mabforever]

Yes I should up date my fic soon but that's not what I'm topicing about

If Mab happened to jump into Harry Potter world or vice versa with Bella, do you think they would have got on?

I'm not even sure who reads HP on here lol if I remember correctly fishinthesea doesn't.

[Beyond:.:Words]

Got on? In what definition

[Mabforever]

lol gutter, gutter, gutter I was just thinking as in a general sense, I mean neither are wildly known for there friend lists, but in away they aren't so different. Both dangerous, both clever, both beautiful and both a little or in Bella's case alot crazy.

[fishinthesea]

haha, no, i really don't read hp. It's not that I don't like it or anything, I am just not interested.

I can actually see them being a bit bitchy to each other, because they actually seem quite alike, maybe even too much for their own good. That, or they'd be bffs from the start.
I can hear both of them going "Magnificent outfit, dear!"

[Mabforever]

Hehe, and for this I will always think of you as an odd ball ;D

Yeah they are, like I said though they both have a friend list that I could count without using any toes or fingers. Oh yeah I can see that, they could exchange hair and make up tips to.

/FLASH/ I KNOW WHO I'D LOVE TO MEET TOGETHER, Frik the poorly ex-employed gnome and Dobby the fwee house elf !!!! /FLASH/

[rusalka]

I LOVE Bellatrix Lestrange, and Queen Mab.

I can see why they could have been powerful allies, Bellatrix's loyalty never falters to something she believes in, like Mab, and would also follow it through right to the end... they are also both largely very sadistic, intelligent, and neurotic.. but because of all these things, their personalities would have definately clashed at somepoint or another. Especially because as 'cold-hearted' as Bellatrix was, she did know love, and was very loyal to those on a similar wave-length in her family - particularly Narcissa (who she had followed to Snape's house to perform the unbreakable vow, despite knowing that Voldemort would have not been happy with this if Snape had not already known, because she knew how much Draco meant to Narcissa)... whereas Mab still let Morgan die, despite Morgan always being on her side and believing in the Old Ways, and helping her to extreme lengths.

Bellatrix was in love with Voldemort... I guess on one side, Voldemort and Bellatrix hated normal humans - whereas Mab needed believers in massive amounts, magical people and humans alike.. even though Mab did see humans as disposable and beneath her - she did still need them in some small way. Mab was also queen of a lot of creatures that Bellatrix would have considered 'bad breeds' or 'half breeds'.. and would have at one point loved all of them equally, as a goddess-type, before desperation kicked in.... but then Bellatrix may have had desperation kick in for her too to make her hate anything other than pure-bloods so much.... but then she DID have unconditional love for Voldemort, who she knew was a half-blood but refused to acknowledge it when questioned.... hmmmmm...

I guess that Bellatrix would have been a very good choice of witch as a loyal servant to Mab, depending on when she may have managed to get her and how far along she was in her life with her 'relationship' with Voldemort... a lot of humanity was still in her, even after Azkaban when she had become much less human as her insanity had taken hold, and became obsessed and fixated on Voldemort's approval - which she would never truely ultimately get.. at this late stage of her life, Voldemort would probably have had to have an approval of Mab first before she considered it.

Bellatrix is a VERY complicated character though (as Mab), and not much was said, so a lot was left to open interpretation by fans which has created a lot of very interesting fan fiction. We will never know what caused Bellatrix to adore Voldemort so much, and what had happened in her childhood to make her snap so easily... her childish attributes suggest to me that something bad may have happened in her childhood and early years, and that her personality and social skills had never properly matured in some ways for reasons left open, again to interpretation (although the bad social skills could be argued, as she had sniffed out the snake in Snape almost immediately); total corrupted innocence, in my oppinion.

So I guess it's how you interpreted her! Any circumstance is interesting though, to me. ... I just end up arguing with my own conflicting thoughts on this subject, so sorry if any of the above seemed confusing to read!

[himiko]

Good points, though in fairness to the Mab/ Morgan and Bellatrix/ Narcissa comparison, Narcissa and Bellatrix are sisters, and fighting on the same side. It doesn't seem like Mab was ever close to Morgan, beyond her use as a tool to create Mordred, so when Morgan tried to oppose her, it didn't really affect Mab much. Note that she DOES go to try and save Mordred, and seems genuinely unhappy when he dies, and it is suggested that her feelings on Merlin are pretty conflicted ("I love him! I hate him, too!" to Nimue, and her and Frik's exchange about how she wanted Merlin to come back to her so she fooled herself- which, as Frik notes, she never usually does), which suggests that she's not without love and a measure of loyalty, she's just capable of being cruel to those she doesn't need.

I did make a post a few months ago in another thread about potential followers for Mab, and I think Bellatrix was a possible candidate, I shall go and dig it up:

"Bellatrix- She's utterly devoted to Voldemort, which means either it would be impossible for Mab to have her on side (as it is very unlikely that either Voldemort or Mab would work for each other, or ever together), or possibly that she could prove equally as devoted to Mab, if she could be convinced. However, she is kind of deranged, making her a loose cannon, and whilst a lot of the wizarding world knows her face, I don't see her bringing people flocking to Mab. Again, possibly useful as a servant to Mab, maybe putting her darker magic talents to use, but as a champion, no. Again, the ideology might get in the way, as with Voldemort."

Voldemort had been mentioned as a prior candidate, and since I mentioned him a fair amount in that last paragraph, I'll also repost what I said about him:

"Voldemort- Don't think this one would work at all, Voldemort wants power for himself, he wants to be the one running the show. I don't think he'd take kindly to acting on behalf of someone else, he'd always act in his own interests. Not to mention, if we're talking the Potterverse, I can imagine his hatred of all muggles (including potential worshippers for Mab) and all muggleborn wizards would clash with Mab, who is going to want followers, and probably not complain about multiple wizards."

So, yeah, I think the ideology is going to be a real problem, since Mab wants human followers, and I can't imagine half-blood/ muggleborn wizards would be an issue for her.

Haha, yeah, where the original creators leave gaps, the fanficcers step in- I don't know if you've discovered the Merlin fanfics yet, but a lot of them tend to explore Mab XD

[rusalka]

OOoh, thankyou for your reply! I totally agree about Voldemort, definately!
You do make a good point about Mab feeling love for Mordred, and being undecided about Merlin... so I'd also have to agree that any Mab/Bellatrix friendship would indeed be a fiery one if it were possible.
I think that Mordred and Morgan Le Fay would be much more compatible with her, being that they both have mean streaks and love magic so much that it clouds alot of judgement - but then, they are muggles as far as we can tell from the movie presented.

And yay more fanfic - I've read somewhere that the more adult rating fics are being posted on fanfiction.net - is there a list of links on this site which link from users from here onto there? I'd be really interested in reading some Mab/Mordred/Morgan related fics (adult or otherwise)!
Mab/Bellatrix fics would be quite interesting, too I think - although it would be very difficult to keep it all in character, but I'm gonna try and seek out any attempts that have been made - if there are any!

[himiko]

Below is the link to the ff.net Merlin section- most of the Merlin fics are on there, though there are a few that are based on the BBC series "Merlin", and have been posted in there by mistake. That should show you the fics of all ratings

www.fanfiction.net/movie/Merlin/10/0/0/1/0/0/0/0/0/1/

There's some fics on here, too, that can be found in the Art Hall section up near the top- there's a subforum in there for Stories

Hope that helps to get you started!