When Morgan met Mab....?

[Mabforever]

How did that go? We never seen them meeting for the first time, Mab's lap gnome did all the meeting and greeting.

Obviously Mab couldn't be mean to her, she needed her.

Morgan had a hell of alot of respect for the old ways even if she didn't like Mab (towards the end as we didn't really see the start), plus we did see her tell Mordred to call Mab, auntie Mab and whether she was referring to Mab in her new family I'm not sure. When Mordred later fires at Mab and Frik with his arrows Morgan asks why he fires at uncle Fwik and auntie Mab which would possibly mean she didn't dis like Mab at that moment or she would have just said uncle Fwik.

Another thing I would like to know is if Mab was at the birth of Mordred or just appeared like she did with Merlin?

In the beginning I'd guess Morgan to be fond of Mab because she did help give her beauty and a child, vice versa I think Mab would have been fond of Morgan to an extent as she gave Mab a champion and supported her old ways. ( yeah I know she didn't "give" Mab, Mordred but you get my drift)

Mab then bumped Morgan off because I think she got fed up of being slowed down. (no that's wrong I mean Morgan slipped)Morgan had served her purpose by giving Mab a champion but I think this could have been one of Mab's greatest mistakes. Had Morgan been alive Mab would have had Morgan and Frik on side thus wouldn't be forgotten.

Morgan was pissed with Mab though, she kept hurting her Fwik and then she was trying to take her son from her. Personally I wouldn't have gave my life up for the brat had I been his mother. She knew it wouldn't last and in the end did loose her looks, lover, and child.

In a twisted way I think Morgan died relatively happy, not dying at all would have been better though. Had it not been for Mab and her magick though Morgan wouldn't have got beauty, and possibly not got a lover or son either. So by happy I mean she didn't go through life ugly and alone which Mab sentenced Frik too.


Thoughts??

[Arwen17]

Sorry I just now noticed your post in this area.

When Morgan said, "The Old Ways have been good to me." what she really meant was "Frik has been good to me." She couldn't have cared less what religion he was from because he was giving her presents and toys and a son.
That wasn't respect. That was buying her affection.

As to why she referred to Frik and Mab with those particular titles. Morgan is a child who never had a proper family since her father and mother died. She was happy they were there and that she had a son. It meant for the first time she wasn't alone and had a family.

Another thing I would like to know is if Mab was at the birth of Mordred or just appeared like she did with Merlin?
Who knows? Maybe, but would Mab enjoy listening to Morgan scream for hours on end? And we don't know how painful it was for Morgan either. Some lucky women do give birth without much pain.
It would certainly be an interesting situation if she had been present. Would she hold Mordred or would she allow Morgan to hold him? I could see Morgan being upset if Mab kept Mordred to herself.

a I think Mab would have been fond of Morgan to an extent as she gave Mab a champion and supported her old ways./b]
I don't think so. Morgan was just a tool. You don't have much feeling for tools. Either its a useful tool or its not. If you're using a spoon to cook for example. The spoon is useful, but you usually don't have any kind of feelings toward it. It's just a spoon. If you do have feelings, then its because the spoon was given to you by your beloved dead wife or something. lol


Morgan was more upset that they were all leaving her alone. Her happy family time was coming to an end. That's why she was upset about Mordred leaving. Her blissful dream world was ending.

Mab killed Morgan because she was no longer useful and now she was getting in the way. Mab certainly doesn't like being told what she can and can't do by a mortal who is no longer useful to her.

Yes, I think your right. I think up until Mab tried to take Mordred with her Morgan was very happy. She lived a short life, but had a lot more happiness in that short space of time than she probably would have had in her entire lifetime.


I've always noticed Mab and Morgan were sitting at opposite ends of that long table. So which end of the table was the head and the foot?
It could be either one. Sitting across from each other like equals or enemies.

[Mabforever]

Lol I figured if I left it long enough someone would find it.

When Morgan said, "The Old Ways have been good to me." what she really meant was "Frik has been good to me."
Awwwww that sounds so sweet when you say it like , I remember though she was always fond of magick and what it could promise her because when she met Merlin she was yet again trying to grasp magick.

As to why she referred to Frik and Mab with those particular titles. Morgan is a child who never had a proper family since her father and mother died. She was happy they were there and that she had a son. It meant for the first time she wasn't alone and had a family.
LoL so in short she didn't really give a fuck that it was who it was. More a case of he loves me she needs me for my son, I love my son, BOOM! - instant family. ;D

Who knows? Maybe, but would Mab enjoy listening to Morgan scream for hours on end?
Ok well in that scenario I'm sure with all her magick she could have turned the volume down in her head lol.
And we don't know how painful it was for Morgan either. Some lucky women do give birth without much pain.
Mmm, there's that and again perhaps Mab or in a more likely case, Frik gave her some potion or other to ease the pain.
It would certainly be an interesting situation if she had been present. Would she hold Mordred or would she allow Morgan to hold him? I could see Morgan being upset if Mab kept Mordred to herself.
Well to this I'd say she'd try to hold him but Frik being a brave lil soldier for Morgan would probably come up with a good line of argument to let Morgan hold him. Then Mab who tell her she needs to rest, blah, blah, blah, leave with baby Mordred.

I don't think so. Morgan was just a tool. You don't have much feeling for tools. Either its a useful tool or its not. If you're using a spoon to cook for example. The spoon is useful, but you usually don't have any kind of feelings toward it. It's just a spoon.
If you do have feelings, then its because the spoon was given to you by your beloved dead wife or something. lol
How very dare you I have I spoon I like just cos it's the only wooden one in my house and I wrote my name on it so , *hugs spoon*
Aaaand I think Mab should love her spoon as she's played by Helena Bonham Carter ;D


Morgan was more upset that they were all leaving her alone. Her happy family time was coming to an end. That's why she was upset about Mordred leaving. Her blissful dream world was ending.
See, and why was Mab pissed? Cos Morgan didn't say she would miss her as much as Mordred and Frik.
Thee End lol


Mab killed Morgan because she was no longer useful and now she was getting in the way. Mab certainly doesn't like being told what she can and can't do by a mortal who is no longer useful to her.


First of, look at what I have striked threw. Why did I do that? Cos we're saying Morgan slipped. Good goddess, *hits on head with rolled up news paper* Bad!
LOL Mab doesn't like being told what to do (fullstop) nough said

Ooh *point bored flips to Mab one*
See there one good thing she did, she gave Morgan a happier life if shorter life...mainly through Frik but hey it was her plan so. Point!


I've always noticed Mab and Morgan were sitting at opposite ends of that long table. So which end of the table was the head and the foot?
It could be either one. Sitting across from each other like equals or enemies.

Mmmm interesting, well might have been enemies, BUT on the other hand there is that Mab is well Mab Queen of the Old Ways and they're in the other there in Morgan's home. I doubt Mab would sit side to Morgan though in reverse I'm not as sure, if Mab said sit with me and Morgan said no she could chuck her into next week.

New Question:
Do you think Frik's life went from bad to worse in a certain respect ie Mab wise? ;D

I'm guessing he would constantly want to be with Morgan using the I'm checking on Mordred excuse without success. Then probs take a lil while longer than usual to go to Mab. Plus family, friends or spoon I doubt that Mab and Morgan didn't argue lol. Meaning Friky in the middle. Morgan doesn't seem the kind to back down and obviously Mab isn't but if Frik wasn't playing piggy I'm guessing Morgan would have died sooner ?

[himiko]

I've always found this quite intriguing, too. Up until Morgan's final scene, we never see them exchange one word. Morgan refers to Mab when talking to Mordred, Merlin, etc, and they take part in the same conversations, but we never actually see them interact until that final scene.

The mood did seem a lot happier in the earlier, little-Mordred scene. Mab played with Mordred while Frik flirted with Morgan, but Morgan still clearly doted on Mordred, too, and the mood between Frik and Mab seemed somewhat better, if that makes any sense. There's less tension, both seem quite at ease, Mab throws a comment in when Frik's telling Morgan about Merlin's days as a pupil. Of course, there's still no interaction between Mab and Morgan, which isn't very helpful.

Later on, it kind of seems like the "family" has split into 2 very distinct groups. Morgan has Frik, who dotes on her, loves her, makes her beautiful. Mab has Mordred, who is going to be her champion, who's going to get the throne for her. Mordred adores Mab, and is irritated by both Frik and his mother. He's old enough that he doesn't really need a parent to "look after him", and so I suspect Morgan is hugely irrelevant to Mab by this stage. She doesn't seem to care what Frik does by this stage, either. Morgan, for her part, doesn't seem to be immensely close to Mordred, they snipe and criticise each other a lot (the book comments on this), and whilst she doesn't want Mab to take him at the end, seems to be more interested in Frik.

I suspect that in terms of Mordred's upbringing, Morgan was left to be the "parent", the one who disciplines Mordred and tells him not to do things (telling him off for being rude, firing the arrows, etc.) whilst Mab was the "fun auntie"- she brings him toys, she spoils him, even when she chastises him there's very little sharpness to it. That's probably part of why he snaps at Morgan and adores Mab. I also suspect that as he grew older, and more of a "sulky teenager", Morgan was perhaps happier to leave him to Mab, let her spoil him and fuss over him whilst she had Frik to occupy her. I think that's part of the problem- after being pretty much neglected her whole life, Morgan goes from being pretty sharp and clever to being quite spoiled herself. Frik gives her pretty dresses and makes her beautiful, and the more time he spends at Tintagel, the more he dotes on her. From Morgan's perspective, why deal with a sulky teenage Mordred when Mab can distract and dote upon him whilst Morgan is doted upon and showered with gifts from Frik?

It would be interesting to see how the meeting between these two went, thought. I suspect Frik did a lot of the preparing of Morgan, etc. before the actual conception took place. It might well have been that Mab didn't bother meeting with Morgan until she was pregnant, or even until Mordred's birth. The one thing that their lack of communication suggests is that, as long as Morgan wasn't interfering with Mab's plans for Mordred, and as long as Mab provided, or allowed Frik to provide her with a family, and beauty and riches, the two were very irrelevant to each other. Morgan loved Frik. She wanted the gifts the Old Ways could give her, but I don't get the impression that she cared where they came from- she wasn't a dedicated follower of the Old Ways, she never seems awed by Mab, or worshipful. And, of course, Mab just needed someone with a grudge against Uther and Arthur to bear a child for her. She's not going to care who.

[Arwen17]

LMFAO at the spoon and everything else.

ok she slipped. excuse me.
she gave Morgan a happier life if shorter life...mainly through Frik but hey it was her plan so. Point!
Uh no because she didn't care about that. Her only plan was to use Morgan whether being used made her happy or not. Did I steal the point away yet? bhwahaha
Mab already has infinite points for being Mab so don't worry.


New Question:
Do you think Frik's life went from bad to worse in a certain respect ie Mab wise? ;D
Definitely.
I'm guessing he would constantly want to be with Morgan using the I'm checking on Mordred excuse without success. Then probs take a lil while longer than usual to go to Mab. Plus family, friends or spoon I doubt that Mab and Morgan didn't argue lol. Meaning Friky in the middle. Morgan doesn't seem the kind to back down and obviously Mab isn't but if Frik wasn't playing piggy I'm guessing Morgan would have died sooner
Mab may have been showing the better side of her patience when dealing with Morgan because she needed her. Remember Ambrosia?
Frik:Why do you allow her to talk to you like that, madam?
Ambrosia:Because she needs me, idiot.

I'm sure they did argue some, but Mab probably put up with it anyway. So Morgan had it coming when she slipped. Years of listening to her flirt with Frik.


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Morgan refers to Mab when talking to Mordred, Merlin, etc, and they take part in the same conversations, but we never actually see them interact until that final scene.
Almost like they've silently agreed not to talk to each other in order to avoid conflict. Two queens in one house, is one too many.

She wanted the gifts the Old Ways could give her, but I don't get the impression that she cared where they came from- she wasn't a dedicated follower of the Old Ways, she never seems awed by Mab, or worshipful. And, of course, Mab just needed someone with a grudge against Uther and Arthur to bear a child for her. She's not going to care who.
That sums it up beautifully.


It would have been great to see any kind of conversation between Mab and Morgan, just to judge the mood between them.

[Mabforever]

I've always found this quite intriguing, too. Up until Morgan's final scene, we never see them exchange one word. Morgan refers to Mab when talking to Mordred, Merlin, etc, and they take part in the same conversations, but we never actually see them interact until that final scene.

Ooooooooh yeah, never really noticed that, HA! you learn something new every day.

The mood did seem a lot happier in the earlier, little-Mordred scene. Mab played with Mordred while Frik flirted with Morgan, but Morgan still clearly doted on Mordred, too, and the mood between Frik and Mab seemed somewhat better, if that makes any sense.
Yeah lol, happy Mordred=happy Mab = happy Frik = ecstatic Morgan.
The funny thing is that happens in families lol, they all start falling out when the ickle cute kid becomes a bratty teen lol perhaps Mab was roped into humanity more than she thought.

There's less tension, both seem quite at ease, Mab throws a comment in when Frik's telling Morgan about Merlin's days as a pupil. Of course, there's still no interaction between Mab and Morgan, which isn't very helpful.
Not sure what it was but yeah I remember had it been proven Mab liked Morgan and Merlin was originally Mordred and Morgan would have let Mordred go I think they could have all lived together quite happily and Mab would have succeeded.

Later on, it kind of seems like the "family" has split into 2 very distinct groups. Morgan has Frik, who dotes on her, loves her, makes her beautiful. Mab has Mordred, who is going to be her champion, who's going to get the throne for her. Mordred adores Mab, and is irritated by both Frik and his mother. He's old enough that he doesn't really need a parent to "look after him", and so I suspect Morgan is hugely irrelevant to Mab by this stage. She doesn't seem to care what Frik does by this stage, either. Morgan, for her part, doesn't seem to be immensely close to Mordred, they snipe and criticise each other a lot (the book comments on this), and whilst she doesn't want Mab to take him at the end, seems to be more interested in Frik.
I know and as much as I love the family I do lurrrrv Mab/Mordred they are like this team evil fabulous couple. lol. Morgan. Morgan did love Mordred but at the same time I think she tended to get caught up in Frik's love for her as she had never felt anything like it before. It was totally new to her and even though she gave Mordred all her love Mordred was a brat who wasn't content unless he had 100% attention ie Mab who didn't have a lover or anything in her life. The only one she had was Mordred her champion.

I suspect that in terms of Mordred's upbringing, Morgan was left to be the "parent", the one who disciplines Mordred and tells him not to do things (telling him off for being rude, firing the arrows, etc.) whilst Mab was the "fun auntie"- she brings him toys, she spoils him, even when she chastises him there's very little sharpness to it. That's probably part of why he snaps at Morgan and adores Mab. I also suspect that as he grew older, and more of a "sulky teenager", Morgan was perhaps happier to leave him to Mab, let her spoil him and fuss over him whilst she had Frik to occupy her.
I said similar up there haha we're all psychic
I think that's part of the problem- after being pretty much neglected her whole life, Morgan goes from being pretty sharp and clever to being quite spoiled herself. Frik gives her pretty dresses and makes her beautiful, and the more time he spends at Tintagel, the more he dotes on her. From Morgan's perspective, why deal with a sulky teenage Mordred when Mab can distract and dote upon him whilst Morgan is doted upon and showered with gifts from Frik?
I don't really blame her, I think from Morgan to Mab to Mordred and so on through the entire cast of Merlin they are all freakin screwed in the head. The most noticeable point being Uther


It would be interesting to see how the meeting between these two went, thought. I suspect Frik did a lot of the preparing of Morgan, etc. before the actual conception took place. It might well have been that Mab didn't bother meeting with Morgan until she was pregnant, or even until Mordred's birth. The one thing that their lack of communication suggests is that, as long as Morgan wasn't interfering with Mab's plans for Mordred, and as long as Mab provided, or allowed Frik to provide her with a family, and beauty and riches, the two were very irrelevant to each other. Morgan loved Frik. She wanted the gifts the Old Ways could give her, but I don't get the impression that she cared where they came from- she wasn't a dedicated follower of the Old Ways, she never seems awed by Mab, or worshipful. And, of course, Mab just needed someone with a grudge against Uther and Arthur to bear a child for her. She's not going to care who.


How a meeting would have went and they're actual thoughts about each other I'm not sure. But it's not like either could really be bitchy to the other without loosing looks or a champion. So I find it hard to imagine how two of that sort would work. But what would be funny if we got a scene of Morgan doing Mab's hair or Mab taking Morgan shopping or something haha !

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LMFAO at the spoon and everything else.
I'm like a dog with a bone when I get started with something so,
SPOON SPOON SPOON SPOON SPOON !!!!!!!!!!!
Amazing how your talking about a film with nothing to do with spoons and in pops a spoon.

ok she slipped. excuse me.
your excused...this time. DUM DUM DUUUUUM!

Uh no because she didn't care about that. Her only plan was to use Morgan whether being used made her happy or not. Did I steal the point away yet? bhwahaha
NO! Cos I didn't mean she gave Morgan happy life on purpose I meant she got a happy/short life through Mab's plans for other things but in all it was down to Mab so :PPPP and if you come up with an argument for that I will get the legendary pokey stick which was snapped into many pieces and jab you right in the eye.
Muhahahhahahaha!

Mab already has infinite points for being Mab so don't worry.

*Thinks*ok may not jab you

Mab may have been showing the better side of her patience when dealing with Morgan because she needed her. Remember Ambrosia?
Mab and patience in the same sentence should only be used once per life time *dies*

Frik:Why do you allow her to talk to you like that, madam?
Ambrosia:Because she needs me, idiot.
I'm sure they did argue some, but Mab probably put up with it anyway. So Morgan had it coming when she slipped. Years of listening to her flirt with Frik.
Ooooh yeah I'm actually thinking back to the Tintagel scene now which also contradicts my question. mmm. Pffffft they flirt so she needs to slip, now if I was a mad Morgan fan I'd probs say something like Mab was just jealous and walk away

*plays canned laughter*

But I'm a Mab girl so choose not to.

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Almost like they've silently agreed not to talk to each other in order to avoid conflict. Two queens in one house, is one too many.
Meh maybe they did maybe they actually were lil chatter boxes when we werent looking

It would have been great to see any kind of conversation between Mab and Morgan, just to judge the mood between them.


Agreed.
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New question:
In all how many people did Mab get on with? Since we're assuming her and Morgan weren't BFF's

[Arwen17]

oh yeah and if I don't respond to something, it's just because I agree with it or have nothing more to say on the matter.

I don't really blame her, I think from Morgan to Mab to Mordred and so on through the entire cast of Merlin they are all freakin screwed in the head. The most noticeable point being Uther
lol That's the nature of acting. If these people were normal they wouldn't be actors and they wouldn't be able to play eccentric characters.

Amazing how your talking about a film with nothing to do with spoons and in pops a spoon.
I was making macaroni and cheese at the time and that requires a spoon.
I was thinking I love the food, but don't really care about the spoon--the tool I used to acquire the food. The spoon only mattered to me during the time I was eating. Am I weird or what?


Mab and patience in the same sentence should only be used once per life time *dies*
Nuh uh! "I have the precious gift of patience, Merlin. It'll be years before Mordred can take the throne. But I can wait. Time means nothing to me."

New question:
In all how many people did Mab get on with? Since we're assuming her and Morgan weren't BFF's
hehehehehehehehehhe
mmmmmmmmhhhhh
i dunno.....
Mordred? I can't think of anyone else. She's a very difficult person. Must have her way at all times or she throws a fit.
And for some reason, her selfishness is completely adorable.

She's patient, but then she's temperamental at the same time.
Would schizophrenic or neurotic be more appropriate?
Maybe it's hormones, that time of month.

[Mabforever]

oh yeah and if I don't respond to something, it's just because I agree with it or have nothing more to say on the matter.
oky doke

lol That's the nature of acting. If these people were normal they wouldn't be actors and they wouldn't be able to play eccentric characters.
Also why I love them, I adore the cast that plays them also. Though I'd have to admit that wouldn't go for the entire cast.

I was making macaroni and cheese at the time and that requires a spoon.
I was thinking I love the food, but don't really care about the spoon--the tool I used to acquire the food. The spoon only mattered to me during the time I was eating. Am I weird or what?
But I don't like macmamoni you should have been making something like umm, ooooh I know cookies I like cookies your allowed to eat them. Your no weirder than the cast/characters of Merlin and the remains of the people on this forum if it makes you feel better.

Nuh uh! "I have the precious gift of patience, Merlin. It'll be years before Mordred can take the throne. But I can wait. Time means nothing to me."
Exactly that was the one time and you just used it again

DUM DUM DUM!

"I have the precious gift of patience." Then why wouldn't she be like a perfect parent? What she lacked in love she could make up in patience plus I'm sure she could have tried to fake it atleast.

New question:
hehehehehehehehehhe
mmmmmmmmhhhhh
i dunno.....
Mordred? I can't think of anyone else. She's a very difficult person. Must have her way at all times or she throws a fit.
And for some reason, her selfishness is completely adorable
Lmao I knew that would be the simplest question I asked, "how many people did she get on with?"
counts one
But as you say it does make her soooo adodable

She's patient, but then she's temperamental at the same time.
Would schizophrenic or neurotic be more appropriate?
Maybe it's hormones, that time of month.
When makes her all the more charming imo, I think if Mab had been a sugary sweet fae queen I wouldn't have been as impressed.
Mmmm, in all I think Mab could spit on puppies and I'd still lurrrrv her lol ;D
Meh now thats a thought, I doubt she'd be impressed if you suggested that to her though

[Arwen17]

Does Mab come off as a bit reclusive you think?
She's not exactly anti-social, but she really seems to keep to herself. Merlin seemed to be that way mostly too. One of them living in the middle of the woods and the other a cave.

She's seems leadership material though, in a pragmatic politician kind of way. Do you sense any charisma or just pragmatism?

She doesn't seem to be a very talkative kind of person?
Is there anyone she would be talkative with?

Like I guess we only see her "queen face" so all the conversations are about the country's problems.
We never really see her "personal face" and exactly who she would show that to? Does she ever think about some time off? What does she like to do for fun?

[Mabforever]

Jeeeesus you've been away a while.
Btw also cant wait for a fic update


Does Mab come off as a bit reclusive you think?
She's not exactly anti-social, but she really seems to keep to herself. Merlin seemed to be that way mostly too. One of them living in the middle of the woods and the other a cave.

Yes she is I mean yeah she isn't anti social, but one it must be difficult for her to let her guard down, two the idea of Mab is she lives forever, so if she has one conversation with a person then they die then it'll repeat. If you get what I mean, she does die but Im not going down that road lol I mean she is surrounding by people who do die leaving only Frik. And he seems to irk her. Or since you bring Merlin up perhaps its a fae thing. Then again Merlin does have Nimue.


She's seems leadership material though, in a pragmatic politician kind of way. Do you sense any charisma or just pragmatism?
You've lost me ;D

She doesn't seem to be a very talkative kind of person?
Is there anyone she would be talkative with?

Mmmm, well she could natter to Frik probably end him being pummeled. Vortigern they could have a decent convo I reckon. Mordred yeah she loves him he loves her probably limited wording. But I'd love to have seen her speak with Morgan a bit more. I dunno what about. With any of the characters but there is always something. What I really wish is that I could see her connect with someone in an emotional level. Shed a tear perhaps. Then again that might ruin respect for the character.

Like I guess we only see her "queen face" so all the conversations are about the country's problems.
We never really see her "personal face" and exactly who she would show that to? Does she ever think about some time off?

Who? Merlin or perhaps Mordred. Vortigern would have saw weakness. But Merlin could have understood her through emotion I'd bet on it. And perhaps Mordred as she does seem to genuinely care about him. And I dont see her taking time off.


What does she like to do for fun?

According to what I've read? She enjoys lots of sex and lots of wine :L lmao my kind of chick. xx

[Arwen17]

you've been away a while.
Btw also cant wait for a fic update
school has been killing me and it still hasn't really gotten any better. I'm passing, but I spend all my time doing an f**kload of homework. Good news is I now have a job organized for this summer. I'll actually be working with university's computer department fulltime all summer so I don't have to go anywhere. The good thing about jobs vs school is that they dont give you homework. Once you leave work for the day, the rest of the time is yours.
Fanfic update possibly. I really am dying to write something new. But I don't know if I'll find the time before summer or not.


Yes she is I mean yeah she isn't anti social, but one it must be difficult for her to let her guard down, two the idea of Mab is she lives forever, so if she has one conversation with a person then they die then it'll repeat. If you get what I mean, she does die but Im not going down that road lol I mean she is surrounding by people who do die leaving only Frik. And he seems to irk her. Or since you bring Merlin up perhaps its a fae thing. Then again Merlin does have Nimue.
Good points.

She's seems leadership material though, in a pragmatic politician kind of way. Do you sense any charisma or just pragmatism?
You've lost me ;D
I mean there's two kinds of leaders. The pragmatic, managerial kind that do a really good job of organizing and making sure people stay on task, but don't necessarily inspire love in their followers.
Then there's the charismatic leader, who may not be good at getting things done, but because they are charismatic, usually lots of people end up liking them anyways and following them.
Of course, some leaders have both of these traits. Does Mab seem the type that most people who talk to her would end up liking her? That's what I mean by charisma. If you talk to a charismatic person, you usually can't help but end up liking them even after only one conversation.


Mmmm, well she could natter to Frik probably end him being pummeled. Vortigern they could have a decent convo I reckon. Mordred yeah she loves him he loves her probably limited wording. But I'd love to have seen her speak with Morgan a bit more. I dunno what about. With any of the characters but there is always something. What I really wish is that I could see her connect with someone in an emotional level. Shed a tear perhaps. Then again that might ruin respect for the character.
It would be interesting to hear her talk about something totally trivial just for the enjoyment of it. She does seem to be surrounded by male characters. Doesn't talk to fellow females often does she? And the few times she does, it seems to always end in a cat fight.

And I dont see her taking time off.
tough job

What does she like to do for fun?
According to what I've read? She enjoys lots of sex and lots of wine :L lmao my kind of chick. xx
lol, now that you say it, yes very likely. But Hallmark(nor the books) never really shows us this, so it makes you wonder what she does with spare time.
Do you think she would ever play cards or chess with anyone? I mean she'd probably win, but still...
Mordred doesn't come across as an intellectual so I'm not sure what entertainment he's good for other than fighting/sex.
Does she read? Or has she read all the books in existence already?
So games/books/sex/drinking, what other forms of entertainment are there? Travel to exotic places? though the land of magic is probably pretty exotic itself.

[Mabforever]

school has been killing me and it still hasn't really gotten any better. I'm passing, but I spend all my time doing an f**kload of homework. Good news is I now have a job organized for this summer. I'll actually be working with university's computer department fulltime all summer so I don't have to go anywhere. The good thing about jobs vs school is that they dont give you homework. Once you leave work for the day, the rest of the time is yours.
Fanfic update possibly. I really am dying to write something new. But I don't know if I'll find the time before summer or not.
Well Im out of school have no job and in general vegetate, I dont know what I want to do. But Im glad you dont hate your job and want to murder it like most people ;D Well I look forward to continued and new stuff as long as it's Mab. I've actually wrote a new fic it's a sequel to The Future as I was asked to write one a few times. The chick in it is based on my rp character and it's a lot different from the first fic so I'm not sure if it will be as enjoyable. Meh I'll post link when I upload and you can share your thoughts if you have time to read.

She's seems leadership material though, in a pragmatic politician kind of way. Do you sense any charisma or just pragmatism?
You've lost me
I mean there's two kinds of leaders. The pragmatic, managerial kind that do a really good job of organizing and making sure people stay on task, but don't necessarily inspire love in their followers.
Then there's the charismatic leader, who may not be good at getting things done, but because they are charismatic, usually lots of people end up liking them anyways and following them.
Of course, some leaders have both of these traits. Does Mab seem the type that most people who talk to her would end up liking her? That's what I mean by charisma. If you talk to a charismatic person, you usually can't help but end up liking them even after only one conversation.

Oh right now you've got me ;D unfortunately I'd have to say pragmatic. If someone really got to know her? I think they may like her but in general she is hard to understand. She's cold. That doesn't get many people to like you Mab has plans and she put them to action. I think in the time of Merlin she cared for her people wanted to get them back but was tired of showing emotion to them to have them turn there backs. I think it's like the red queen in alice in wonderland. "It is better to be feared than loved." sort of thing as with fear she wouldnt be forgotten.


It would be interesting to hear her talk about something totally trivial just for the enjoyment of it. She does seem to be surrounded by male characters. Doesn't talk to fellow females often does she? And the few times she does, it seems to always end in a cat fight.

I know lol it would be amusing, and I said something about that somewhere else. Mab is supposed to be a protector of women in particular yet she seems unable to talk to any women.
Morgan - killed her
Ambrosia - killed her
Nimue - scarred her

She didn't actually kill or scar them but you get my point.

And I dont see her taking time off.
tough job
Just hard to see Mab chillin

lol, now that you say it, yes very likely. But Hallmark(nor the books) never really shows us this, so it makes you wonder what she does with spare time.
Do you think she would ever play cards or chess with anyone? I mean she'd probably win, but still...
Mordred doesn't come across as an intellectual so I'm not sure what entertainment he's good for other than fighting/sex.
Does she read? Or has she read all the books in existence already?
So games/books/sex/drinking, what other forms of entertainment are there? Travel to exotic places? though the land of magic is probably pretty exotic itself.

Hmmm s'pose it's irrelevant unless your a Mab fanatic. Maybe she did do cards/chess but she'd either win or if she lost scream and kill her opponent. Lmao yes Mordred is a bit of a moron, still maybe just using him as a lap dog would be fun? Like her own human puppy to play with. So we have, games/books/sex/booze/travel. Perhaps in general let her creatures pamper and look after her? Brush her hair, do her nails/make up sort of thing.

[Arwen17]

I've actually wrote a new fic it's a sequel to The Future as I was asked to write one a few times. The chick in it is based on my rp character and it's a lot different from the first fic so I'm not sure if it will be as enjoyable. Meh I'll post link when I upload and you can share your thoughts if you have time to read.
ooo yes please. I always need more mab literature.



Hmmm s'pose it's irrelevant unless your a Mab fanatic.
who do you think I am?
Who are you?

Maybe she did do cards/chess but she'd either win or if she lost scream and kill her opponent.
Is she that much of a sore loser when its only a game? she can always try again.

Lmao yes Mordred is a bit of a moron, still maybe just using him as a lap dog would be fun? Like her own human puppy to play with. So we have, games/books/sex/booze/travel. Perhaps in general let her creatures pamper and look after her? Brush her hair, do her nails/make up sort of thing.
ooo icky-girly things. yeah i dont have much experience with that lol

[Mabforever]

ooo yes please. I always need more mab literature.
As promised.

www.fanfiction.net/s/6835185/1/The_Beginning_of_the_End

who do you think I am?
Who are you?

Oh aren't you hilarious. You know that's not what I meant and you are being mean.


Is she that much of a sore loser when its only a game? she can always try again.

That depends, walk with me on this:

Mab and Vortigern playing game.
He wins - she analyses him then they play again
She wins - bit of flirting and smirking all ends well.

Mab and Frik playing game.
He wins - she says he's cheating then beats him up
She wins - she says he's not trying and beats him up all does not end well.

ooo icky-girly things. yeah i dont have much experience with that lol

Are you crazy I love manicures, pedicures, facials, massages, bit of fake tan on occasions, but what drives me wild is people playing with my hair. I utterly adore that and could sit forever. lol go have a girly day out I insist upon it xx

[Arwen17]

www.fanfiction.net/s/6835185/1/The_Beginning_of_the_End
excellent! I reviewed!
Oh aren't you hilarious. You know that's not what I meant and you are being mean.
it was said in the most joking tone possible. cause it was so funny when you said "unless you're a mab-fanatic". where have we been the last few pages?

That depends, walk with me on this:

Mab and Vortigern playing game.
He wins - she analyses him then they play again
She wins - bit of flirting and smirking all ends well.

Mab and Frik playing game.
He wins - she says he's cheating then beats him up
She wins - she says he's not trying and beats him up all does not end well.
That totally makes sense!
Why is it that it is impossible for Frik to please Mab??

Are you crazy I love manicures, pedicures, facials, massages, bit of fake tan on occasions, but what drives me wild is people playing with my hair. I utterly adore that and could sit forever. lol go have a girly day out I insist upon it xx
yep, definitely not my style.