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Post by Mabforever on Oct 17, 2011 18:18:09 GMT
I pace, I get branded insane. god I pace a lot too. But I don't confine it to just my room, so it annoys my family. Im terrible for it it is mainly in my room I have no idea I am doing it.
oooh she likes a man with a beard. and see personally I'm not crazy about facial hair with some exceptions. I hate facial hair not so bad with stubble. But if it's what Mab likes why argue with her.
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Post by sleepyqueenie on Jan 8, 2013 21:16:09 GMT
I watched Brave Nyssa, you are right. The mother resembles Nimue. Her looks, her manners, everything. It got me thinking. Nimue would not have made a bad queen. Not the kind of queen I heavily fangirl about - bring in Mab-. But a good queen. Mab could have easily allowed Merlin to be together with Nimue and be her champion. His accidental love happed to be of noble birth and not some farmer's daughter. That is lucky. Merlin knows nothing about ruling, human law and proper behaviour. Nimue could have taught him, together with Mab. If only Merlin had not objected to Mab's plans... the kingdom would be at peace and devoted to the old ways. -certain Mab could dechristian Nimue-
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Post by NyssaSaraLee on Jan 9, 2013 1:10:21 GMT
-certain Mab could dechristian Nimue-
*recalls a certain Arwen17 fic* *smiles*
Oh yes, i agree with you there!
I absolutely adored that movie! And although it was irish accents still made me think of Ashy, and how much i wish i had a cool accent.
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Post by sleepyqueenie on Jan 10, 2013 9:30:34 GMT
good fic ;D It were Scottish accents, but Ashleigh's is muuuuuch cuter. Don't you dare deny, sweetie! Nyssa, I adore your pronounciation. And you can Carlotta like no other. You could do any cool accent you want. Ashleigh and me have no choice.
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Post by NyssaSaraLee on Jan 10, 2013 9:42:53 GMT
yes yes, Mah NO! Because i dont havea my coutsume for act 3 because.. SOMEbody not finish ita! AND I Hate my hat!!! * bows* Ashys is SO cute hunni bunni
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Post by sleepyqueenie on Jan 10, 2013 9:48:40 GMT
*grand applause to Carlotta* Ashy says her accent should not be thought of as cute I disagree *cuddles Ashy*
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Post by NyssaSaraLee on Jan 10, 2013 9:49:20 GMT
* joins the cuddles* yup ADORABLE!
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Post by sleepyqueenie on Jan 10, 2013 9:54:00 GMT
AAADOOOOWWWAAAABLE, we all are
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Post by Mabforever on Jan 16, 2013 19:37:11 GMT
Im as adorable as a snake.
My accent is friggin impossible to make out and I constantly sound raging though Im not. Adorable just isnt there unless the sentence was Ashleigh is an adorable cobra.
Jeese Ive never even met anyone who found my accent remotely adorable O.O strange Mab creatures.
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Post by sleepyqueenie on Jan 19, 2013 9:41:48 GMT
I like snakes, but that is a side note. You are not a snake We are strange Mab creatures. Your accent is adorable if at times hard to make out. I managed. You'd better believe it. Online you are one of the cutest kindest people. True, had I known you from seeing you at the train station I probably would not have come sit/talk with you. The moment one of us approached the other (bound to happen) and the Mab word would have fallen there would have been no stopping us and you would become as cute to my eyes as you are now.
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Post by NyssaSaraLee on Jan 19, 2013 18:26:20 GMT
*like*
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Post by sleepyqueenie on Jun 18, 2013 14:09:59 GMT
Today I would like to spare a thought on all of the Nimue/Merlin fans. I know they are out there -I met some of them-. Although they are not as noisy as us Mabfans there are fans who love Merlin just as much as we do, not for Mab but for its romantic plot. Now I, ignorant perhaps immune or allergic to love stories, have to ask why? From the start of the film we see their love is the 'true' kind because it is represented exactly like we are used to. Damsel in distress, love at first sight it is all there. Over the top but we accept it. The thing which bugs me is for most of the time they can be together and they just don't. Merlin is always out on his undefined mission and Nimue I believe seriously considers becoming a nun. Conveniently ignoring the ending, they spend their happiest times together in captivity. First in Vortigern's camp and later on in Mab's cave. Think about it.
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Post by himiko on Jun 19, 2013 18:11:42 GMT
I wouldn't say I find Merlin/ Nimue particularly interesting as romance stories go. It's a fairly basic "love at first sight, meet again in later life, obstacles happen, happily ever after" storyline. Nothing against the two actors, but they're not given much to work with relationship wise- it definitely feels like a subplot compared to the war between Merlin and Mab.
I agree that they don't seem to spend time together when there's no reason that they shouldn't. I guess the idea is meant to be that Nimue doesn't want to be amongst people, and because it becomes apparent to Merlin that he will have to play politics to defeat Mab, and thus spend time at court, it is impractical for them to spend much time together. But it does make you wonder why they can't simply live somewhere secluded, but near to court/ wherever. We see from the beginning of episode 2 (when Arthur rides out to tell Merlin that Uther is dead) that Merlin pretty much does just that after he leaves Uther's court. Did they spend much time together then, I wonder, or did Merlin spend most of his time co-raising Arthur?
I can't remember if the book states this, or if I'm just confusing it with my own theories, but I think to a certain extent, Nimue is motivated by fear- not just of people seeing her, but the Old Ways in general. She stays in an abbey, she considers taking holy vows and staying there forever, which will obviously cut her off from Merlin, which suggests one of two things:
1) She agrees with Merlin's cause (this is probably the case in either scenario, TBH), but because she doesn't believe that he will ever be able to completely defeat Mab/ make the country at peace, she tries to make a life for herself away from Merlin, rather than spend her life waiting for him. Once she finds out that there is a chance that Merlin CAN be free (as she tells Mab), then she is willing to forgo that for a life together.
2) She is afraid of the Old Ways, after being scarred and nearly killed by a dragon. Possibly that seeps into her feelings for Merlin, since he is a wizard himself, conceived by magic. By staying in Avalon, she is hiding, to an extent, from the Old Ways, and from the outside world. Perhaps part of her eventually agreeing to Mab's bargain is the fact that, since Mab appeared in Avalon in the first place, Nimue was not as safe/ hidden as she thought, and thus, she would be in no more danger by being with Merlin, and might be able to protect him.
I think a mixture of the two is quite likely myself.
But yeah, I kind of get why they spend time apart, and I think that, had Nimue's reasons for staying at Avalon been delved into a little more deeply in the film, it would maybe have given her character, and the relationship, a bit more depth. As it is, it's pretty apparent that they love each other (though not enough for Merlin to abandon his mission), but there's not really a lot to their relationship in terms of plot, nor is it really delved into, IMO. Nimue seems to be there largely as a plot device in episode 1- her rescue leads to Merlin's magic manifesting itself, her scarring leads to Merlin reusing his magic and swearing revenge. Then she's kind of just there, maybe as a humanising influence on Merlin, and someone who can be used against him.
What are the reasons you've heard given for liking the Merlin/ Nimue relationship, out of interest?
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Post by sleepyqueenie on Jul 4, 2013 7:03:53 GMT
The interesting thing about their relationship is in my opinion the obstacles. There are countless stories in which the couple has been driven apart by some evil force and the man has to find/rescue his beloved at the end of some Odyseusal journey. Merlin and Nimue’s obstacles are less tangible and perhaps more complex because they exist mainly on a cognitional level. Her insecurity and belief and his preoccupation with his self-imposed duty. At first I believed Nimue being of nobility would prove an obstacle. Vortigern takes that problem away very early on by taking them both captive equaling their footing. Somehow this topic of hierarchic difference never rises again. From the fire onwards the limits exist mostly in their minds. They are imposed by themselves. It would have been helpful to me if the film had dwelled more on what was going on in their minds instead of showing a few pictures of them being together in love and yet pushing each other away out of fear (Nimue) or a higher purpose (Merlin). Perhaps it is meaningful to recognize the importance of other goals in life than love. Goals like learning to embrace yourself after a traumatic event –though she never really manages to do that- or having justice in your life. Perhaps it is only tragic. The problem may also lie in me not seeing why they are choosing the difficult way. As a Mab girl I would go with her and see no harm in picking the 'easy way out’. In my eyes they could be free all along. It will always intrigue me how they can be happiest in Mab's creation, a lovemaking place created by your enemy would freak me out. Yet to them it lifts them of their responsibilities and restraints. It rather mirrors their happy romance in Vortigern’s camp. Do they only allow themselves to be happy in such circumstances? Apparently Avalon is the only place Nimue wanted to live secluded and save. It makes it very sad for equally secluded hut living Merlin. Despite not having many meaningful moments together in this romance story they do have a few lovely moments as a couple- albeit forced feeling to me. Then I am anti romance girl. The true love motive is what Merlin/Nimue fans told me as why they like this romance as the core of this story. It is the sacrifices they make and the joy of them having a fairytale happy ending. (oh Frik )
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Post by Arwen17 on Jul 7, 2013 15:44:21 GMT
Somehow this topic of hierarchic difference never rises again. There were a lot of things they brushed over. Like the fact that Nimue was thinking about becoming a nun, yet she was getting regular visits from a pagan wizard. I believe Nimue was going to become a nun, not only because of her burn scars, but because her father was killed in battle. She may or may not have lost her money and position due to her father's death. Becoming a nun might have been her only option, other than starving in the streets.
a lovemaking place created by your enemy would freak me out. TOTALLY! It did kinda creep Merlin out when he first arrived there though.
I never understood why Mab didn't want Merlin raised as a noble. What was the point of raising him as a peasant if he's going to need to rule over the nobility? It's not mentioned in the movie, but in the book his human mother was a noble lady sent to Avalon to become a nun. Avalon is where Elissa and Ambrosia met. I feel like the writers were just lazily copying Christ's story. Merlin is basically the pagan Christ, down to his humble birth.
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